“Many of the nutrition scientists at the FDA and elsewhere were quite upset with us, saying, ‘Look, you set this off. It’s shaken up our whole policy of not allowing health claims on foods, which we think is a solid, reasonable policy that keeps us out of trouble,’ and changed the picture.”
The Kellogg incident marked the first time a manufacturer claimed that a food could help prevent a specific disease. FDA, in the end, did not order Kellogg to change its All-Bran messaging.
“I think I was a little naïve in this… this was used as a wedge, I would say, by the Reagan administration, not by us, and by industry to put implied health claims on foods or this sort of thing on foods,” Greenwald said. “That’s still going on. For example, misleading statements implying orange juice prevents cancer. That went on.”
Said Greenwald:
Whether intended or not, it did lead to a huge change. A lot of the change was not the intent, but it had a big impact.
I think there was a good impact on eating of fiber. It stimulated research on fiber. The NCI coding systems were insufficient at that time. The codes didn’t say fiber; there was little study of fiber.
And also the fat issues. There were scientific groups that said maybe we’d better study that, some for good academic reasons, some saying we think you’re full of it.
But there were studies, and from our point of view, they helped to focus peer-reviewed grants. A lot of research was stimulated. It focused more research on nutritional science—not as much as we needed, but it helped in that sense.
On the downside, probably it would have been better if we’d gotten together with the FDA on this specific issue beforehand.
But Sanford Miller had said we should do it our way. The FDA didn’t want to work with us on this. The FDA was friendly, but I think they probably just would have tried to squelch any dietary guidance related to food products.
This oral history, along with 301 others conducted by FDA, have been hidden following the Trump administration’s order to purge government websites containing anything related to DEI or gender. The PDFs with transcriptions of the interviews are still online, but the central FDA landing page which formerly directed users to the agency’s collection of oral histories has been removed.
A partial list of scientists and officials who participated in FDA’s oral history project can be found in this issue.
Greenwald also participated in the NCI Division of Cancer Prevention Oral History Project, completing a set of three interviews in 2008, and a fourth in 2023.
The interview synopses reads:
In interview one, Dr. Greenwald traced education and employment activities that prepared him for his work at NCI. He noted a summer fellowship in Iran during medical school that permitted him to learn about many conditions rarely seen in the United States, particularly cutaneous anthrax.
He emphasized his training and experiences as an Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) officer at what is now called the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which advocated assessing a public health problem and addressing it with action.
This contrasted with his postgraduate public health training at Harvard University, which emphasized rigorous, evidence-based methods for statistical research on chronic diseases, especially cancer.
He described his decision to unite the two training philosophies by accepting in 1968 a position as Director of the Cancer Control Bureau, New York State Department of Health and gave examples of his work before coming to NCI in 1981.
Interview two described how he created a new Division of Cancer Prevention and Control (DCPC) at NCI and on the programs DCPC sponsored.
Dr. Greenwald outlined the philosophical concepts of cancer “prevention,” cancer “control,” and cancer “etiology” and how he implemented evidence-based research on cancer prevention and control.
Specific programs that he discussed during this interview include the Smoking and Tobacco Control, Diet and Cancer, Chemoprevention, and the Community Clinical Oncology Program, with subgroups emphasizing the needs of minority populations to address health disparities.
Two particular clinical trials discussed in detail were the National Surgical Adjuvant Breast and Bowel Project and the Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial.
Interview three continued the discussion of major clinical trials supported by Dr. Greenwald’s division and also detailed internal NCI administrative processes by which resources were allocated to different divisions.
The difficulties of nutritional research for cancer prevention and of defining valid biomarkers for indicating stages in the process of carcinogenesis were also detailed.
Dr. Greenwald commented on the priorities of different NCI directors and the effect they had on his efforts to identify risk reduction for specific cancers through clinical trials.
Greenwald retired from NCI in March 2011. His full oral history, recorded Aug. 26, 2009, is available in the Cancer History Project, along with oral histories recorded by NCI in 2008 and 2023.
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